#16782 - 02/26/08 06:06 AM
Re: Obama Supporter Challenge: Ron Paul Fan... CHA
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Junglist
Frosted Flakes
Registered: 12/25/02
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Lisi, I didn't play the RACE CARD. I don't see people in terms of Group identity. There's, to borrow a line(PUN!) from Obama... not a Conservative and LIBERAL America.. there's not a white and black America.. there's the United States of America...
STATES. Meaning STATE RIGHTS.
But let's ask Samuel Adam's what he thinks of Obama on the issue of Gun Control or the PATRIOT ACT:
"And that the said Constitution be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms; or to raise standing armies, unless necessary for the defense of the United States, or of some one or more of them; or to prevent the people from petitioning, in a peaceable and orderly manner, the federal legislature, for a redress of grievances; or to subject the people to unreasonable searches and seizures of their persons, papers or possessions."
or... how about on the issue of taking the Constitution LITERALLY:
"How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!"
or on Obama in general...
"If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin."
or what should we do to protect our right...
"The liberties of our country, the freedom of our civil Constitution, are worth defending at all hazards; and it is our duty to defend them against all attacks. We have received them as a fair inheritance from our worthy ancestors: they purchased them for us with toil and danger and expense of treasure and blood, and transmitted them to us with care and diligence. It will bring an everlasting mark of infamy on the present generation, enlightened as it is, if we should suffer them to be wrested from us by violence without a struggle, or to be cheated out of them by the artifices of false and designing men."
Good day. If you think Obama is more important than Adam's, Jefferson, Lincoln(Republican from Illinois!)... you are sadly Mistaken.
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#16783 - 02/26/08 08:33 AM
Re: Obama Supporter Challenge: Ron Paul Fan... CHA
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lisi
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We aren't living in the 1800's right now. You are still acting like things are the same as they were back then in society. Sorry, you are sadly mistaken...
And by the way, this is going to be my last response to you, because your idealist views have you thrown so far off your rocker, that no one can have a conversation with you about anything. So it's really a waste of my time to respond, and it's just giving you what you want. So, good day.
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Happiness to me, is being with the people that love you. Everything else, doesn't seem to matter.
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#16791 - 02/28/08 11:55 PM
Re: Obama Supporter Challenge: Ron Paul Fan... CHA
[Re: lisi]
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Frosted Flakes
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You've not conceeded a single point, even when proven wrong--you said that EVEN IN THE FACE OF PROOF, you wouldn't change your mind. NO MATTER WHAT, you would be voting for Obama...
and that is why we are fucked. Have a blessed day.
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